Sunday, November 26, 2006

Proof #11: Unstoppable Ageing


And him whom We grant long life—We revert him to a weak state in creation. Will they not then understand? (36:69) more translations

This verse portrays aging as an inevitable natural process, exempting no one. Like everyone else, Jesus would be subject to it. After reaching physical maturity, he would have aged and weakened over time, eventually becoming an old man and meeting his death. This is unremarkable; his fate could be no different from any other human's. Yet, if we believe he's still alive, stepping into his third millennium, this verse implies his physical and mental faculties would be so deteriorated that his existence would be meaningless. The only life this verse allows him is one indistinguishable from death itself.

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5 comments:

Affan Abdul Kadar said...

[2:259]

Or (take) the similitude of one who passed by a hamlet, all in ruins to its roofs.
He said: "Oh! how shall Allah bring it (ever) to life, after (this) its death?" but Allah caused
him to die for a hundred years, then raised him up (again). He said: "How long didst thou
tarry (thus)?" He said: (Perhaps) a day or part of a day." He said: "Nay, thou hast tarried
thus a hundred years; but look at thy food and thy drink; they show no signs of age; and
look at thy donkey: And that We may make of thee a sign unto the people, Look further at
the bones, how We bring them together and clothe them with flesh." When this was shown
clearly to him, he said: "I know that Allah hath power over all things."

I suppose this verse clears yours doubts on the process of ageing.

Affan Abdul Kadar said...

[18.10] When the youths sought refuge in the cave, they said: Our Lord! grant us mercy from Thee, and provide for us a right course in our affair.
[18.11] So We prevented them from hearing in the cave for a number of years.
[18.12] Then We raised them up that We might know which of the two parties was best able to compute the time for which they remained.
[18.13] We relate to you their story with the truth; surely they were youths who believed in their Lord and We increased them in guidance.
[18.14] And We strengthened their hearts with patience, when they stood up and said: Our Lord is the Lord of the heavens and the earth; we will by no means call upon any god besides Him, for then indeed we should have said an extravagant thing.

A Omer said...

Affan: Thanks for your comment.

2:259 is a dream, which is why the food and drink are still there, as well as the donkey. Otherwise the drink would have evaporated in a day or two. Food consumed by animals and the corpse long decomposed. And the donkey, would have wandered away, and, needless to say, died long ago.

The language is obviusly that of a a parable.

As far as Jesus' life/death is concerned I urge you look at Proof-1.

Affan Abdul Kadar said...

There was no signs of age on the food and drink, but the donkey was reudced to bones..read closely

A Omer said...

Affan:

The ruined town reffered to in the verse is Jerusalem which was laid to waste by Nebuchadnazzar, the King of Babylon in 599 BC. Ezekiel, the Prophet, was among the Jews whom Nebuchadnazzar carried away into captivity to Babylon and who was made to pass by and witness the ghastly sight of the devastated town.

Ezekiel was naturally shocked at the sad sight and prayed to God in words full of extreme pathos as to when the ruined town would be restored to life. His prayer was heard and he was made to see a vision that the restoration prayed for would take place in a hundred years. The verse does not mean the Ezekiel remained actually dead for a hundred years and then had come back to life. The Quran sometimes menations scenes seen in a vision as having actually taken place without stating that they were witnessed in a vision or a dream (12:5). The vision signified, and Ezekiel understood the significance, that the Children of Israel would remain in the state of captivity and complete national degradation for about a hundred years after which they would recieve a new life and would come back to their sacred city. And it actually came to pass as Ezekiel probably saw the vision in 586 BC. The city was rebuild about a century after its destruction. Its building started in 537 B.C. by the permission and help of Cyrus, the King of Persia and Midia, and was completed in 515 B.C. It took the Israelites another fifiteen years to settle n it and thus virtually a century passed between the destruction of Jerusalem and its restoration to life. It is puerile to think that God actually caused Ezekiel to die and that he remained dead for a hundred years and was then brought back to life; for that would not have been an answer to his prayer, which did not pertain to the death and resurrection of any individual but to that of a town representing the whole people.

for more goto: http://alislam.org/quran/tafseer/?page=106&region=EN

Thanks and regards